Smoking Ban in Ireland

[muz-za]

FOR:

My clothes smelled fresh as a daisy after a night out pubbing and clubbing (note - shit club). :D

AGAINST:

People leaving mid sentence for a fag outside in the autumnal wind/rain with nowt but a halogen heater for protection. :roll:

Generally I'm for it, but I'd be interested to see whether it would affect the atmosphere in the likes of Chibuku, as people woule be leaving for a ciggie frequently me thinks.

What we reckon folks?

[richchibuku]

i wouldnt be arsed. once people get there heads round it, its fine.. been in various non smoking clubs.and its not an issue really. ( i smoke like fuck in clubs)

[emmma]

Brilliant news, its coming our way soon mwahahahahaaha


its so great not stinking of stale smoke after a night out, the clubs in new york didnt seem to have groups of people dashing outside for a fag, they could handle it

just give up losers :P

[boltzy]

I'm no quitter!

It would be a good thing though, i've tried giving up loads and always fall foul of a big night out.

[Barrington]

I tihnk it would interesting to give it a week trial in clubs and bars around L;iverpool for a week and see how people cope.

I'm not so much of a smoker during the day, but for me drinking and smoking go hand in hand so I'm not too sure how I'll cope! :?

[emmma]

I tihnk it would interesting to give it a week trial in clubs and bars around L;iverpool for a week and see how people cope.

I'm not so much of a smoker during the day, but for me drinking and smoking go hand in hand so I'm not too sure how I'll cope! :?


youll have to cope, liverpool is going to be one of the first uk cities to roll that badboy out

[Barrington]

Lol... well they're trying although I'm not sure if they'll have the same success as our Irish counterparts did.

I remember that Leeds Uni tried to do something at their Union nights (a la Double Vision/Time Tunnel type of thing) and they lost out on something like 30 000 grand in a weekend because all the students pissed off elsewhere where they could smoke, drink and cavort in peace. The Uni changed back pretty sharpish.

[Pete1]

I hope this is a joke. I bloody loves smoking, it is big, it is clever and it does make me look hard. :D

A none smoking liverpool would be grim. As much as i love chibuku i would give it a miss and go to my local destiny and elite (twin scene nightclub) so i could have a ciggy.

I'd have to listen to "baby cakes" and sh!te like that but at least i could smoke myself to oblivion!

[emmma]

if it comes its going to be throughout the city not just a few venues

[Pete1]

What is your source? I've heard nowt about it. It would never work, the people would rebel. There would be illegal smoking dens, with a door with a hatch in it and you'd have to do the secret knock and give a password. Like at Fat Sams in Bugsy Mallone.

[Barrington]

Lol.

Have you not seen the campaign posters and pamphlets Pete! Have you been living under a rock all summer young man! They're everywhere!

[Pete1]

Under a rock, yes!

Not had sight nor sound of these pink-pon-phlets, alez clas!

[gingernick]

You could always construct yourself a smoking tent like Governor Shwarzenegger did;

Over the past several weeks, there have been many media accounts of Governor Schwarzenegger's plans to incorporate cigar smoking into his daily Capitol routine. As of today, the facts are that the Governor has raised a tent over a patio near his office in the Capitol and is using this tented area to smoke cigars while conducting gubernatorial (sic - do you think they wrote it in Arnie phonetics?)business. According to news reports, a more permanent structure has been ordered and is expected to arrive in a matter of weeks.

[absolutemoron]

As much as i love chibuku i would give it a miss and go to my local destiny and elite (twin scene nightclub) so i could have a ciggy.

I'd have to listen to "baby cakes" and sh!te like that but at least i could smoke myself to oblivion!

I seriously hope you're joking. Otherwise you should be barred on principle!

[Pete1]

I am joking, yes.............. i'd go to the Ritzy in Bromborough. :lol:

[absolutemoron]

That's more like it! :lol:

[nt]

I am joking, yes.............. i'd go to the Ritzy in Bromborough. :lol:

Is the Paradox still shut then?

[Pete1]

I've never sampled the delights of the paradox, might give it a whirl sometime.

Face down, ass up thats the way we like to f**k! Bowwm, bowwn, bowwn.....

What a tune!

[boltzy]

they tried to ban smoking in a gay club in Birmingham last month, didn't work though, couldn't keep the fags out

buddum'tish

[nt]

they tried to ban smoking in a gay club in Birmingham last month, didn't work though, couldn't keep the fags out

buddum'tish

I'm here all week.

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[Psychosomatic]

I think on one hand its ultimately going to stop me smoking as much which can only be a good thing in terms of long-term health. However, I also think its slightly hypocritical and maybe in some ways is being made a scapegoat of. I mean lets be honest, car exhust fumes are much worse and I imagine all those anti-smoking lobbyists drive home in fuel guzzling cars after thier conferences. Oxford road manchester probably knocks of more years than passive smoking ever would but I see little interest in that. I dont really think smoking should be banned outright in clubs/bars, perhaps it should be left upto the landlords or rather they should be forced to aocomidate for both parties. I dont REALLY care either way though.

[Ben.Morgan]

If you worked in a factory and were being made to inhale the equivalent of cigarette fumes all day they'd be shut down.

No smoking in bars is wicked. I loved it in Dublin.

[Tayor Bodytonic]

howdy,

we promote various clubs in Dublin and to be honest - at first it was a bit of an atmosphere killer. it didn't affect numbers (if anything they went up coz we had more space as we had a courtyard we could open up) , but over the summer people tended to hang outside for longer coz it was the 'cool' place to be. now that the weather's colder , people stay inside more and i have to say the atmosphere is really good lately and should only get better.

overall most people here think its a good thing and its not as big of a culture shock as you would think. people just get on with it. also its a good laugh drinking &smoking out on the street. when the weathers good anyway... :lol:

so not a bad thing at all then?!!

Tayor.

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[Serial45]

Yes i've heard of this too, It won't just be effecting one or two clubs, it will quite literally effect all pubs and clubs across Liverpool. This is the plan, heard about it first on North-West tonight.

[rj mc intyre]

The smoking ban is a pretty good idea, although beware the rural irish pubs: I was in a small one in Donegal over the summer that was packed to the rafters, and some dirty stopout was sitting at the bar dropping.... flatus....all night. Stank to high heaven, and although I'm a non-smoker I'd have gladly taken the smell of 20 lambert over the heady mix of intestinal gas & guinness. Still, it was funny to see the looks of guilt and paranoia that eventually took over nearly every punter in the room by the end of the night.

It's a good idea but it shows just how much the smell of smoke normally camouflages...:-)

[muz-za]

the heady mix of intestinal gas & guinness.

that don't cling to yer clothes though, or at least I hope not. :lol:

My friend's local in rural Ireland got busted for having a lock in. It was cos people were going outside for a smoke at 3 in the morning :oops: Classic!

[B.]

if it comes its going to be throughout the city not just a few venues



:lol: your loving this arent ya..



I seriously can't see it working, I would be outside every 5 mins which would defeat the object of trying to watch 2hour + sets.
I think I would start throwing underground smokathon parties if this really happened, charge 50p on the door , I reckon I would make a killing. :lol:

[AndyD]

If a club hasn't got a courtyard or something then how is this going to work? Will you be allowed to go outside if there's a load of people waiting? Will you have to get searched when you come back in again? It doesn't seem to be much of a problem for bars and pubs, but I can see it being difficult for clubs. And as I don't smoke myself will I be allowed to go out with some mates who do to have a chat, or will I have to take up smoking to do so :?

[generaljimmy]

basically if u smoke ull just have to learn to adjust, most smokers can give up if they have enough focus for it, having a kid, wanting to give up etc. the ban will just help this along a little. it may fook the atmosphere up a little at first but after time it will definitely sort things out.

[Pete1]

All you anti-smokers, a word to the wise. If this smoking ban comes into play up and down the country and Mr Blair and his cabinet of Nanny's strike another victory in their quest to stop people partaking in another of lifes little pleasures then the cost to you is going to be astronomical. All social smokers will give up on the spot and before long every one will try and kick this habbit, not necessarily because they want to but because frankly it's too much dam hassle going in and out of pubs and clubs. The end result is that tax on everything else will go through the roof to compensate for the massive hole left by the loss of cigarette tax revenue.

Don't hold me to these figures but i seem to remember reading that there are currently 8 million smokers in Britain. If they each smoke say 20 fags a day at £4.30 a packet.
That's £34.4million a day
That's £12.56billion a year of which £9.42billion is tax revenue.

So lets say a third of current smokers quit due to the new smoking bans.

That's a £3.14 BILLION hole in the countries tax revenue. The already crumbling NHS relys heavily on cigarette tax to survive so i think they are gonna miss a third of their budget somehow. And yet people complain that smokers shouldn't get seen to as quickly as a non smoker because it's self inflicted. We bloody fund it! IT STINKS!

RANT RANT RANT!

If you want me i shall be puffing on a big fat cuban stoogie...

[generaljimmy]

thats nothin compared to the nhs costs on cancer and all the other health problems that smoking causes, which will eventually diminsh as a consequence of smoking being banned. and besides, you will still be able to buy fags, just have to pollute your own lungs in your own room instead of other peoples.

[Pete1]

Number 1 killer in this country is heart disease, Number 1 cause of this is alcohol. Are they gonna ban that? Nope!

For hundreds of years smoking and drinking has taken place hand in hand in pubs. People who didn't like smoke didn't go to the pub. But now oh we have to change the habbit and tradition of generations because some people don't like it.

Okay so lets try and please most people by having some smoking pubs and some non-smoking pubs at the managers discretion. Everyone is happy with that surely. But oh no we have to go the whole hog and ban it from everywhere. It's riduculous.

What about these working mens clubs? Where nearly everyone smokes. They have to stub out their ciggy's for the benefit of a few. Why can't those few go next door to the non-smoking pub? It's ludicrous!

I like smoking and i like smoking in pubs why take it away from me?

[whooodis]

I like smoking and i like smoking in pubs why take it away from me?


....Because you can't be trusted to make decisions for yourself..... :wink:

[Pete1]

Ha ha. True!

[muz-za]

For hundreds of years smoking and drinking has taken place hand in hand in pubs.



They did it to a much greater extent in Ireland per capita, and they've dealt with it quite handsomely from what I've seen.

I like your financial calculations BTW, there's commitment to a debate if ever I saw it! :wink:

[Pete1]

Ah fook it! I'm not arguing anymore. I'm just gonna lay back and smoke myself to oblivion here at work, where i can smoke all i like! It's like an opium den in my office. A big cloud of smoke bellows out anytime anyone opens the door!

You win.......... for now............ facists!

[generaljimmy]

:lol:

i dont have any problems with smokin opium...

[absolutemoron]

Another good thing it will eradicate is getting accidentally burned on the hand/eye/brand new top as you attempt to negotiate your way from the bar with a pint of lager, a gin & tonic and a Baileys. Ooooh, ladyboys! :lol: